to have you with us. this is a industry where it is tough to make money, and is this one going to to make money? >> oh, yeah no question. both carriers, can make money, you put them together, there is not a lot of overlap, a lot of cross feeds this is create, it will help communities and the consumer too. we have one less brand choice but really, it is not that big a dial, they don't overlap much. lou: you know, you shock me just a little bit. have neither of the company been in bankruptcy? >> oh, it has been -- >> they have been in and out like they need a turn style for crying out loud. >> difference is, in last 5 years, the carriers, individually, have cut about 12% of their comment, they are not adding new airplanes, the craziness is out of the industry right now, and this year, they will have less capacity so we think, i think stabilitiy is in. don't let your sons and daughters go i into the airline business and don't investment but overall, what is there they can make money. lou: bob crandle who use